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The First Episode of The Integrative Science of Water & Consciousness with Veda Austin and Seth Leaf PruzanskyPrepare to initiated into a deeper understanding of water's mysteries both within you, and in the world around you.
Veda is going to tell her incredible story about how she became "The Water Whisperer"This series is going to be an incredible journey for all.
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Transcripts:
Seth:
Hello everybody, I am Seth and I'm here with my dearest friend Veda Austin, and this is the Integrative Science of Water and Consciousness Podcast. And this is a true passion play where we are going to get into the deepest, most profound aspects of water and consciousness as it relates to possibility. Because look at, we live at a time when there's so much happening and the way things were are not the way they're going to be. So a new consciousness, a new way of being is literally emerging now. And if we literally open our minds to possibility and potential and focus on the unifying themes within us, all that we can all relate to, we find that water is at the top of that list. And Veda’s work with water has inspired me so deeply that I couldn't even put it into words that would do it justice. But I am confident that you all are going to really begin to experience why I'm so inspired. When you hear about Veda, when you hear what she has gone through, what she's experienced, how she has been able to heal from the impossible. And literally create possibility from that place. So this is Veda. Veda I want to introduce you to everybody at Tourmaline Spring here. And let's hear, let's hear, what you have to share.
Veda:
Sure. Thank you so much Seth. Hi everybody. I thought I'd begin with my journey back at the beginning with water, although it might not seem like it has anything to do with water. When I began telling the story, you'll see how all roads have led me on this path towards not just water but water consciousness, spirit and so much more. So about 25 years ago, I was in a really horrendous car accident. We went under a seven ton truck roll twice. The driver was decapitated. It was considered one of the worst accidents in New Zealand where someone survived. So I, I remember coming to as soon as the car had stopped rolling, the car was on its side and the seatbelt had wrapped around my waist and crushed my internal organs. And I was in so much pain, but I was able to cry out for help.
Veda:
And I'm so grateful that I couldn't see the man's body the driver that died. But I, when I cried out for help, the man who had been following us in his car, he had a make fighter jet that he was showing around New Zealand and he happened to be at a fireproof outfit and the car had happened to start sparking. And so he heard me cry out. And you know, I think he's such a hero because he had to climb over that man's body to unclip the seatbelt where I just fell into his arms and he carried me to the side of the road and placed me down on the road. And I remember looking up into his glasses and seeing my reflection was just white and blood everywhere. And he was he was amazing and so comforting. And I was asking what happened to the man, and he said that, you know, that he died.
Veda:
And what I, what I found interesting was that I had, I had suffered and gone through one of the most traumatic experiences, and yet I had retained all my memory before and after having been knocked out. I was, I, I remember I gave him my mother's phone number at her work that I had remembered. And so he rang her. Then the ambulance came and took me to hospital. And I remember being in this, this unit and people looking quite shocked at the state of me. I had no idea what I looked like. I was an absolute mess. My face was just black and blue and glass all over my all over me. My eyes were just, every part of them was red. I broken my collarbone and ribs and lots of internal bleeding. But somehow I, I after they had given me some pain relief.
Veda:
I remember having joking with one of the, with one of the doctors and just still retaining somehow my sense of humor through this. And, and then I was in hospital for four days and they spent hours, actually days picking all the glass out of my face and out of my head and my body. And I, I remember oh, think it was day three. They helped me up to have a shower. And I remember the lady was washing my hair and half my hair came out and it would have been chopped up from the glass, from the windscreen and there was just blood everywhere. Just blood and glass and hair and I, as of yet, I still hadn't even seen myself in the mirror. And I had wanted to wanted to, to like see what I looked like. And so when they showed me, I was like, Oh God.
Veda:
And the glass where they'd picked out, I just was just, you know, I was just scarred everywhere. And over the course of a year I had I had, I had to go to hospital about 12 times because there was scar tissue on my small bowel where the, the seatbelt had wrapped around my waist had created scar tissue that was starting to cut my digestive system off. So every time I would try and eat, I would just like vomit, and vomit and vomit, and I'd end up in hospital. And after being in hospital, they would put me on a saline drip and I, you know, all the food would, would, would go away and I would notice that I was starting to feel so much better, but I was also getting properly hydrated. And there was this point, I remember thinking that there was something special about salt water, saline water that they give you intravenously because we're not a body of fresh water we're a body of salt water.
Veda:
And I do remember being really feeling so, so much better after being on this drip. And so after a year I had finally I saw a specialist and he was like, Oh my God, I, I don't know how you've managed this last year. He said, we're going to do bowel surgery. So I had bowel surgery done on, on my small bowel and they cut about, I think he said it was something like 18 inches out of my small bowel is a lot. We have a very, a lot of small bowel, thank God.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
But it seems like a lot. But after that, you know, it took me a while to heal, but it was about six, seven weeks after that surgery I went to India to just really trial that bowel out with, with...
Veda:
With the vegetarian curry. But, but anyway, that was and I was, you know, and I was fine and, it really made me appreciate what we put into our body, being able to actually eat food without being in pain. And three doctors had told me over the course of that year that I would never be able to have children. They said that the scar tissue was so bad around all my internal and reproductive organs that it was, it was virtually going to be impossible that I would ever have children. However, I don't really like being told what I can't do. So I actually ended up having three children that for every doctor that told me I couldn't.
Seth: Wow.
Veda:
So but over the course of that over 20 years, you know, I, I have had eight surgeries. Most of them have been bowel resections, but one for my broken collarbone and for a stage four endometriosis all different kinds of, of, of operations. But as I mentioned earlier, one of the things that happened was that the, the, the glass really went through my face. So what was interesting though is that in the back of this guy's car there were crates of Steinlager and Steinlager glass is green. And so when.
Seth: What is that?
Veda: The car rolls...
Seth: Is that kind of a water?
Veda: No Steinlager is like a beer.
Seth: Is a beer okay lager, right? Sorry.
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
It's, its popular here in New Zealand. But anyway, the glass of the Steinlager beer is green. And so when the car rolled, the glass smashed as well as the windscreen. And so I had lots of like different colored glass in my body. And so I'm telling you that for a reason is that over the course of all these years, you know, I had all these surgeries, my last surgery they found I had blood clots in my lungs.
Seth: When was your last surgery?
Veda: My body hadn't recovered. Sorry.
Seth: When was your last surgery?
Veda:
About 10 years ago. And so they found that I had these blood clots so my body hadn't recovered very well from the bowel surgery. And I think from all the anesthetic and everything that I'd gone through, my body was in trauma. And so it formed clots after post-surgery or during surgery. Sorry. And so anyway, I remember going, Oh my God, no, how is this possible? See I've never actually drank alcohol. I've been vegetarian since I was eight. You know, I look after myself and I, you know, I, I live a holistic life, so I was like, what the heck? Well, you know, why am I getting these blood clots? And so they wanted me to go on warfarin for a six month period and that's essentially a kind of blood thinner also a rat poison. And I was in quite a lot of resistance to doing that.
Veda:
But the medical professional was really saying, no, no, you need to do this. And, and that can be quite scary, you know, when you're faced with alternatives that are really bad. And so another doctor, doctor friend of mine, who is an integrative doctor, he's a medical doctor, but is integrates, ayurvedic medicine I suppose. And he said, look, if you can find a natural source of high alkaline water, he emphasized natural then maybe it might be something that could potentially help you know, to balance what's going on in your body. So we have all these buffers in our body to keep our, our, the alkalinity of our blood exactly as it is.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: So it's, it's, it's unusual for your body to become acidic. It's actually hard for that to happen because everything is, is making sure that the body functions so well.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
But that's what happens, you know, when you get these clots is that and, and things become more acidic and then the, the blood starts clotting and it couldn't, it's very dangerous. So I was like, Oh God, yeah, drinking water, that's got to be good. So that's, that felt way better than having to be taking warfarin and having to have these injections every week to test your blood and everything's just bruising everywhere. And so I, I started doing eight week trials on our different waters with a pH of a seven up. So on average it was like between a 7.8, 8.2, 8 or kind of around that area of, of pH, which stands for the potential power of hydrogen. I didn't really notice anything. I didn't know what I would expect. You know, I thought, well, maybe I'll be more hydrated or something.
Veda:
And then a friend of mine, she said, you know, I know this, this man, this (inaudible 13:22), and he has his own private water source and he's only giving water to cancer patients right now. He's not selling it commercially. Perhaps, you know, you might want to get some from him because his water pH out of the ground is 9.9, like, Holy heck, I'd never heard of such a high pH naturally occurring out of the ground. And so I went and I saw him, I told him my story. He gave me a month's worth of water to try. And so I started drinking it, really observing that I had made no other changes to my diet, you know, to my, to, to anything to see and feel what whether or not it would make a difference. And I've been doing that with all the other different trials I've done with different waters.
Veda:
After three days I really noticed a change and something that I think a lot of people don't like to talk about, but I think it's important. We talk about bowel motions as a state about internal health and I had all this bowel surgery. And so bowel motions were like something that yeah, I was aware of.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: And so, you know, things really shifted and that I noticed that you know that things were moving in a much better direction than they had been so sorry there. And for me that, that was, that was improving how I was feeling. And, and I think so many people are grossly dehydrated because they’re; they're sitting on the toilet trying to push out a (inaudible 15:04) for half an hour, an hour. And that's not natural, but that's really common.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
And that's a bad state of dehydration. And so, you know, I noticed that. And then after 10 days, what I found to be one of the most remarkable things happened where, bearing in mind this 25 years after my car accident. I had all these bumps coming up along my arm and along my jaw that were really painful. And I, I had a sense that my body was sort of having some kind of detox, I guess. But I didn't at, in that moment I wasn't sure what was going on. But they were so painful that I noticed when I scratched one of them, it was sharp and I got some tweezers and I sort of went in and I pulled out this green glass.
Seth: Oh my God.
Veda: I'm like, Oh my God. So then as amazing and disgusting as it was...
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
At the same time, I, you know, I had a friend helped me pull all this glass out of my jaw and my arm. And most of it was green I had 27 pieces of glass come out to the surface of my arm and my and my jaw that had been embedded in my body for over 25 years. And I had only, the only thing I had done different was drink this unique water that I'd found. And I'm like, I need to know more about this. Yeah. And so I, I had a wellness center here in New Zealand at the time. And I asked a number of people whether they'd be interested in just trying the water for themselves. And so, although these aren't clinical trials, they were my own personal trials that I, I wanted to see whether the water was responding to me or whether it would respond to other people. And across the board from very, very healthy, well, people that were extremely fit they had a huge increase in energy. All the way to extremely, very sick people from people also with, with heart disease, with, you know, with, with, you know, with diseases that, that we all know about.
Veda: And as well as depression with infertility issues with eyesight problems. The first I sent some water down to my godfather down in Wellington and he drank about a liter and a half of it in a day and they said he went to the toilet and he had this ping in the toilet. Like, okay, I really want to know what that was.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: He said, yeah, he passed a kidney stone.
Seth: Wow.
Veda:
I'm like, what? And, and so over the course of a year and a half, you know, I clicked in all this information from these people. And I'm like, okay, there is really something here with this water. But apart from just looking at the analysis of it, you know, I wanted to know more and I started reading a book about a few books about water that go into a little more depth. And I started to recognize that on a microscopic level, water has, has certain structural components to it and they vary depending on the kind of water it is.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
And that really led me on a journey of water discovery and discovering not only about the science of water, but water’s connection to our whole human body. It's ability to absorb, not just the environment, but human consciousness as well. I think even it's being able to absorb information from a kind of omnisensory perspective. And yeah, I, I followed different belief systems. I've been really interested in what people believe and philosophy. You know, I've been to India nine times. I've traveled the world. I indigenous beliefs, you know, really resonate and I feel that a lot of indigenous people believe that water is a living being. And with the research that I've started to do that all stemmed from this horrendous car accident and led me on this journey. Now, I actually feel that that I have crystallographic evidence to show that water in fact can, does respond to consciousness and may even be conscious itself. And I've missed the whole part about my work, but that we can, we can, you know, get to that.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
But I would love to share something that has been profound for me as part of that journey as if. Just before the big Christchurch earthquake, I used to live in Christchurch here in New Zealand and we had a very large earthquake. That's seven years ago or so. The day before, the biggest one, a friend of mine was visiting. And I was telling her about that car accident, what had happened. And my son Rama, who was three at the time, he was as children do, he was hiding and listening and spying on me. And he overheard the conversation and I'd never spoken to him about it before. And he heard what happened and when I finished talking, I remember he jumped up on me and he said, I remember that mummy. I remember the window wipers and the tires and he said, I came down out of the clouds and I went like this and I saved you. And when I knew you were okay, I climbed back up the ladder into the clouds where his sister, where Shanti was waiting for him.
Seth: This is way before, how long before they were born?
Veda: Oh God years and years.
Seth: So he just have the memory.
Veda: Really Ram is only 12 now.
Seth: Oh my God. So out of nowhere he just had the memory that all of that happened way back before he was...
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: Even incarnate in human form.
Veda:
Absolutely. And I made, it brought so much emotion up for me on multiple levels. You know, as a parent, as a parent, just knowing I was chosen he was like, Oh, I , no, you know, you're going to be my mom. I'm not having this. And, and also just the fact that he could remember that it was so matter of fact, so sure just effectual kind of statement that he came up with. And at three, you know, it's, he's so young still…
Seth: It's like these Dalai Lamas who know; they recognize their items and stuff from the previous ones. They're like, Oh, that was mine.
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: It's that level of intensity of like split specificity.
Veda: Yeah, yeah. He's, he's amazing boy. And so, you know, I, I, I started to really look into water as something, something very magical. And so I was inspired by several people to start doing my own research and Masaru Emoto as many people know, you know, he was definitely one of them when his book came out and...
Seth: This book.
Veda: That's it. The Hidden Messages in Water and you can see on the front of that cover, that's a beautiful ice crystal that has responded to a word. I think that, that, that word may be gratitude on the front of it.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: But he did some wonderful stuff which showed the contrast of what could be termed as part of positive and what could be termed as negative. So he would write the word love and compare it to what the word hate showed within ice. And so he would flash freeze water after had been exposed to a word or a prayer or a multitude of different influences and then photograph microscopically the ice crystals that developed relative to the last influence. And his book became very, very popular I think because it was so visual. And people could see the contrasts of, of, of, of a positive affirmation or word compared to something like hate.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
And the water structure looks like a mudslide. It doesn't hold geometric structures like, like the front of that book. And also there is a he's also become a very good friend. His name is Laurent Costa. He's a French photographer who photographs ice crystals too. But what's really interesting about his work is that it doesn't just show geometric patterns. This work actually also shows up microscopically happy faces and fish and things like that. And I was like, Oh, wow, you know, this is taking it to like another level. And I also read a very kind of obscure piece of information by a man, a doctor by the name of Thomas Haronomous and, and he, he went to this French meat market and he observed that freshly placed organs of animals that have been slaughtered. They there was glass behind them where they were placed and it was cold. And so frost had developed above the organs. What was interesting is that the frost had formed into the same shape as the organ. For example, the heart the, the frost kind of had taken the, the form of the shape of the organ of the heart. And same with the liver and the kidney. And he had this concept that life force energy was still somehow emanating from the organ and affecting the water crystallography above it.
Veda:
And so my thinking was, well, imagine if I could take, you know, a living hand, for example, it wasn't severed and place it into a Petri dish of water as an influence and freeze it and see what happened. And so you kind of put all those three influences together for me. And I'm like, okay, I really want to see if this thing about water having memory or holding information is really real for me. But at the time I didn't have a microscope. I was just working with what I had, had a Petri dish and I had a freezer and I had an iPhone. So some, okay, so I put some water, the same water that I was drinking that, that helped to, to heal my body and help to expel the glass. I put that into a Petri dish and, and my idea was that I would just, you know, influence it in some way, but that organically happen.
Veda:
So there were, some fluff in the Petri dish, so was like, Oh God. Okay. So I put my hand in to take the fluff out, but consciously thinking, you know, I wonder if my hand will have an impact on the water's memory. And I was reminded of doctor (inaudible 26:54), observations as well. So I froze it, I forgot I forgot about it for a few hours. And when I pulled it out, I held it up to the light and I took a photograph. And that photograph has led me on this, this journey now for the last eight years of water crystallography. And there was a picture of a hand in the ice that was half the size of the Petri dish that almost looks like an X ray. But I was so amazed and I, and I said to my son, Rama, Hey Rama, what does this picture look like? He said that looks like a hand mam.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: It is, it is a hand, isn't it? And I'm like, okay, is this a, this is, is this a coincidence? You know, that rational mind trying to like make sense of stuff.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
So I, so I went down to the beach and I got some seawater because I thought of all water that would be informed outside of amniotic fluid. Surely it's got to be seawater. And so I put a small layer of seawater into the Petri dish. I made it thin because salt water freezes much slower than Spring water. And then I, I took it out after having frozen it and I, I took a photograph and you can see an amazing fish in it with its fins and scales and a perfectly round eye and tail and am like, okay, there's something going on here. I need to investigate this. So I've taken over 10,000 photographs of, of ice images that had responded to human consciousness or their environment. And the body of work in itself is the part that can't be ignored. I, I think that, that, that if it was a coincidence, you might get at most maybe four or five images time after time that's doing something that looks like something.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: But, but yeah, it's, it's been an amazing journey. But I changed my technique as I begin to be come much more aware of the newer science of water. And I discovered.
Seth: As a merge a lot since all of this happened with you. It's amazing how far it's come and how far it's...
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: Going. That's...
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: That's also what gives your work such a powerful, suggestive potential. You know, it literally speaks to possibility because if consciousness, if intention, if feeling, if things are having that much of an effect. I mean that much of a replicatable effect on water. And I've seen a lot of these photos, everybody, like it's just, you like can't even, it's like you said, your rational minds like, Oh, you want to try to make sense, but it's just so beyond you. You just feel like, okay, I have to surrender because your mind can't comprehend it. It can't process it. And the more you try to, the more it brings you to this place of like, okay, I just got to let go. So it's amazing. And this new science that you're suggesting like it’s, it's.
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: Really validating possibility here.
Veda:
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I, I, you know, I, I started watching, observing water as it began to freeze. And it does different things. Creates like a skin on the surface of the water and, and that skin, you can, you can see it, you can see it starting to like branch out. It's like the formless becoming form in front of your eyes. And there's, I've observed that there's two types of water. There's the informed water and then there's the water that appears to be uninformed. And the informed water is attracted to the, to the, the, the glass at the bottom of the Petri dish. And that is where the crystallography forms and the uninformed water seems to just freeze much slower. So I formed the technique where I'm able to get rid of the uninformed water and look at the crystalline architecture and, and it's a very short process. And what's interesting is that I get a much more 3D view of water. So from the old technique, which was just raise it and see what happens to a very sophisticated technique where I'm able to really see things from a new perspective.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: But water is also working with me where I feel like I'm doing this, co-creations I say that because I'm getting a response. I realize for co-creation it requires two active participants.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda:
But water is responding. For example, I asked what, because I'm right out on the edge now I'm using influences like photographs and putting a Petri dish of water on top of a photograph for 30 seconds, freezing it, using my technique and photographing it and getting an image of the, of the person's features and face.
Seth: From the photograph?
Veda: I'm getting writing words. Sorry.
Seth: I said from the photograph you're doing that?
Veda:
Yeah. Yeah. And then I'll write a word underneath I put that Petri dish of water on top of the word and I'll have an image that relates to the word. I can write, I've been doing such a lot of different co-creations music's wonderful. I'll play music to the water and it will kind of respond in a way, which is very interesting because I think we all like different types of music. It's not limited to one type. And I think water is, is able to express itself in all different to all different types of music. So I did a whole different load of genres seeing what water would do. And what was really interesting was that water sometimes would create geometries. Sometimes it would create images that were relative to a word in the song. Like I, I did six, sorry. Co-creations I don't like the word experiment because I think of all, and it would, even though I still sometimes...
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: Almost start saying it because I'm around so many scientists, but, but you know, oneness body of water we all are. And I, and I don't like the idea of being experimented on. And so I take that same feeling with the work that I do with water. So I don't, I, I try to really check myself whenever I start saying the word experiment. But I did six tests with the word, sorry, with the song, stairway to heaven. And in every single photograph a stairway was present and I took one photo per Petri dish. It's not like I'm taking thousands and choosing the best one. I can do that anyway if I wanted to because the ice melt so quickly in...
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: This process. And so, but, but so, so in that respect, water responding to a word in the song. But then I did, I did one where I played the sound of a gong. My assumption was that I would see some kind of like, I don't know, circles or something, something geometric maybe. But no, no, it showed me I should never assume anything. Water actually designed an image of a gong with a mallet on top of it.
Seth: Oh.
Veda: Like, so it designed the instrument. I'm like, what the heck? And, and so I've learned not to assume anything with the intelligence of what water can create. And that's what's so exciting to me is that I have this huge body of work, which is quite, quite difficult for the, for the rational mind to get its itself around. However, it's very real. And I'm, I mean, I'm, I, I'm like a little kid. I get so excited about this because I never know what's going to show up.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: So powerful.
Seth: I get excited every time you send any to me; I'm like, what's this next like a Christmas gift.
Veda: We've been doing this…
Seth: Or holiday gift.
Veda: For years.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: Yeah. But I guess one powerful one or there's been several. And I started saying that I'm right out on the edge. So I actually, I spoke, I thought, well, I've just had some communion with water.
Seth: Right. You might as well try talking with it if you're that far out.
Veda: Yeah, exactly. I got nothing to lose. And so I started out, I said, hi, just I said hi.
Seth: Yeah.
Veda: And the amazing thing was that in the in the ice image there was the English word H I, I'm like no rational mind again.
Seth: Right.
Veda:
And I did it again and then I got another hi. But this time we're like a little heart on top of the, I. And then I see it to what I see. Do you know who I am? And it blew me away because it had my initials V A but what was amazing is that the initials were linked and the exact same way that I write my initials. And I'll share that with you so you can share it. But also I said, because my mom, she was, she was a walking angel on this planet and she died in 1999. And I said, can you connect to my mom and see I used to live in Japan years and years and years ago. That's a whole nother story. But I, I, we, my mom and I would send letters to each other and at the end of every letter she would send me, she would draw a circle with a heart in the middle. And that's exactly what showed in the ice is a heart with a circle around it. And a year later I did the same test and I got the same results. And so there is something very, very special going on here. And I'm inclined to believe that the indigenous people are right and that water is in fact a conscious living flowing entity.
Seth: Hence the name of your book which
Veda: Which just about to come out, yeah,
Seth:
Yeah. The secret Intelligence of Water. She's getting ready to publish a book that I have really strong feelings about it. I mean, I feel like it potentially could change so much for people regardless of they're open to it or not just looking at it. Even if you're close to it, it's still, there's no way you can't wonder what it's actually suggesting. It's literally that powerful so yeah.
Veda:
Well, I always invite anyone that struggles with the mental part of like getting their head around what or how it's happening. Even if they view it as art. I mean, this is one of the things that I kind of call it weaving with water where, it's an entire wave of science and art and consciousness, spirituality or kind of flowing and linking together. Everyone is valid as the other, but in unison of the three, I think that it holds a very powerful message, especially since water has found this way in which to communicate. It could stand as a way in which it could be an advocate for the environment, even in a way. And I, I'm just very humbled to be to be part of this because I feel that I'm the medium and, and water is the artist and together we're co-creating into a new world. Something very profound and beautiful.
Seth:
Well said. My gosh. Well, look, I couldn't even be, I feel so blessed and so humbled to be able to even witness your work much less to know you. And to know some of the deeper aspects and the emotional aspects and different things that you have put into the creation of this body of work that my God, does it speak for itself. That's underestimating it. It might speak for millions, you know. So I am so excited to just be a part of your life and to be able to share my passion for water with somebody who's just, maybe you're, you're more passionate about water than I am, which is pretty interesting because I am, I love.
Veda: You're right up there.
Seth:
Like I am just all about water. It's, there's just something, it's always been one of the most profound healing forces in my life. But to be able to interact with you on this level, to see you bring forth this body of work. And then as we watch the way others interact with this body of work, it suggests that this possibility that we've been referring to since the beginning of this talk is that there's a possible unification, not possible. There's a definitive unification coming up within human consciousness where we as individuals slowed down this incessant identification with believing that we are alone or isolated or just an entity unto ourselves. And we're beginning to feel actually feel through our experience and through other people's experiences of these connections with water. You know, water is such a unifying element and your work is literally making this a reality. Like it's speaking towards this greater reality like nothing I've ever seen.
Veda:
Thank you. I think it's the bloodline of life. You know, it is the unifying force of life. There is no life without water. And a friend of mine, Moses Hackman, he said that that water is the glove on the hand of consciousness. I think that's a powerful, powerful thing to say and has a very deep meaning.
Seth: It's a meaning that definitely needs to be contemplated for a bit because...
Veda: I think so.
Seth: You can feel it, you can think about it like it has all these different connotations to what it could signify. So yeah, very.
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: Important thing.
Veda: And Seth, you know, we're, we're both great admirers of each other, what you do and the, that somebody is there representing their company of water. I, I, I really love that. I believe that you give a voice of real, genuine authenticity to the water that, that you know that you're providing for people. And that your energy is in that. And I really believe that. I believe that water also chose you to be the representative of it and that you know, you're out there doing amazing work. You just keep on going, keep on giving hope to people and love to people. And I, I really feel very honored to be your friend.
Seth: Oh, thank you. Yeah, that's, you know, we can, that's something we can talk about too. I mean, the entire vision for Tourmaline Spring aim out of self healing through one of the...
Veda: Yeah.
Seth: Most difficult times in my life. So it's an interesting story.
Veda: I'd love to hear that in another talk.
Seth:
Yeah, we can totally get into that. And you know, I have a feeling that as we do this, and we're going to get into all kinds of things, by the way, this is like right now we're talking about Veda. We're talking about more personal things, but we're going, we're going to get all the personal stuff in there, we're going to get it out of the way, and then we're going to start going deeper and deeper into many different layers and possibilities of water. And I feel like that's going to bring some incredible people with incredible empowering stories into our line of work, into our awareness who are going to share things that are going to be so powerful with the listeners. Because we are literally in one of these times where it's like if we resist the intensity of these times, it consumes us it swallows us and it's painful. And so it's only through surrendering to this intensity and just being like, okay, it's on fire. I'm just going to let it burn itself through me that we get through it. When we surrender to that, when we just let it like, okay, do what you're going to do. There is such peace on the other side of that. There is such transformation and we are literally in one of these times right now where we're going to as a species witnessed this happening collectively. I truly feel that and I know so many others do as well.
Seth:
So these talks, everything that we're doing here is really almost like the initiation of a lot of other things that are going to come out of it. So, alright, well look, thank you Veda. I am really looking forward to speaking with you soon. And I'm going to include all the links and everything to Veda’s book and I'm going to, there'll be a whole bunch of stuff underneath this. So just look at this information, share it, like it, get involved with it, talk about it with your friends and loved ones. Really try to engage with it because what Veda has been able to demonstrate time and time again is that there is a conversation, a communication, a dialogue, a dialectic that is actually happening between our awareness and water. And though the rational mind can't really grasp it or make sense of it makes no difference.
Seth:
Because if you still approach this whole topic, everything we've talked about with an open heart, with an open mind, feeling the air of possibility. Then this communication that we're talking about will respond to you or work with you in ways that you can't even imagine like it has for us. So we sit here humbled because we know, we know what transformation is like from a core fundamental level to the most basic levels. And we know that it's only the tip of the iceberg to use a water pun.
Veda: I love it.
Seth: Okay guys, until next time, we'll see you soon.
Veda: Okay bye.
Seth: Bye.